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snettbish
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13 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2008 : 05:14:00

I have my suspicions that this development does have impact on off-wind boat speed so I want to give it a try.

Does anyone have any plans or a description of a good system?

Any comments would be welcome

Thanks

adrianhowse
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United Kingdom
6 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2008 : 05:36:12

I reckon you are right. A fellow club member huffed and puffed that this development would take away from the purety of the design. I would love to fit it, if only for the pleasure of watching his reaction when I first deploy it in a race.

Jonathan Woodward sent me some pictures illustrating his arrangement for the flyaway jib pole. He has been experimenting with different length poles from 1.5-1.8m (there is apparently no limit on length). Jonathan had very smart a bespoke mast step made. It is not strictly but it does mean there are no screw holes in the deck.

I am happy to forward his description, comments and pictures if you are interested.

I had a chat with Tom at Speed Sails re the cost of a conversion kit and he sent me the following message.....

"We have looked at options regarding the mast steps. The wider mast step is something that can be made, we just need to know the appropriate dimensions so we can get them the right width.

Having said that, getting individual mast steps (for the trial period) made up will work out relatively expensive. Mass production would drastically reduce the costs but, if the rule does come in it will be simpler just to put the pulley and cleat on to the deck and so reduce the number of fittings needed.

Obviously, for people wanting to try the system before it gets adopted this makes things more awkward. I personally would suggest waiting to see what happens. If you are keen to try the flyaway pole then please let me know what size mast step you need and I get a price to have one made.

In terms of a conversion kit, the price (excluding a new mast step) would be approximately �135.75 inc VAT (depending on pole size / material)".

If you have some of the bits you need in the garage, so you might do it a bit cheaper. As it is it's no more expensive than a new jib! I hope this information is of some assistance.

snettbish
Starting Member

13 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2008 : 11:22:03

I have also contacted Jon and he has also sent the same to me.
I have a better idea of how to make it work now but I don't want to go to great expence to try it. I have some odd fittings and all I need is a pole and some shock-cord and a length of light control line.
As I don't really use my cunningham system I did think of adapting it.

Wirralsaint
Starting Member

United Kingdom
29 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2008 : 15:44:45

Grads seem happy with their fly away poles. Although judging by the poll on the front page there seems to be no great push for them to be used in Ents. Seems alot of bother to me. Especially as carbon fibre poles are so easy to used and can be bought economically if you buy the pole and fit the ends.

Tim

snettbish
Starting Member

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Posted - 08/18/2008 : 19:10:16

Its not so much the lightness of the pole but rather the speed at which the pole can be deployed and retrieved and more importantly the ability to tighten the leach on the jib and improving its effectiveness.
I didn't think it would make that much difference but from the experiance of racing against others equiped with the system, they did seem to have a margin of speed advantage offwind.

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